Assassination: Live-Blogging and Not Exactly Holding Back on the Potentially Explosive Politics…

An Assassination: Live-Blogging – The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan


08 Jan 2011 03:18 pm


3.49 pm Various Palin sites are frantically removing various incendiary materials – which is both gratifying, but also, it seems to me, an acknowledgment of previous rhetorical excess. is in meltdown, images like these are being removed ASAP, and Palin’s Facebook page simply cannot cope with the number of commenters blasting her.

3.41 pm A local Giffords campaign office had a brick thrown through the window last spring.

3.35 pm A campaign notice from Giffords’ opponent last summer:


How many political candidates hold an automatic rifle in their open crotch in order to demonstrate their ideological bone fides? The conflation of conservatism with the willingness to use violence depressingly deepens.

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  1. A god hating, psycho anarchist, with grammar issues, ‘nothing to see here, there’s are not the droids you’re looking for’

  2. More like libertarian extremist, especially with all that anti-fiat currency and “2nd Constitution” stuff – but if you were as nuts as he is, you’d probably be a libertarian extremist, too.

  3. But the default setting was to blame the tea party, Palin, and Afghan War vets, (in that order) when he was more than like a MoveOn, Obama, and Code Pink supporter. Hence the template.

  4. @ miguel cervantes:
    Obama supporter? Code Pink? I’m not sure I even want to know how you come up with that.

    Giffords’ opponents stirred up a lot of murderous/violent ideation around her. Those opponents include Palin and her infamous “target” list. So the connection is blatant and obvious. Probably doesn’t mean a lot in the sense of motivating this guy. For all we know he was mistreated at a 7/11 when he asked for change, and that’s what set him off. Or maybe it was Xmas season car commercials. But it still highlights and intensifies the dissonance of the Palin/Tea Party culture in the mainstream. Because it’s so wonderful and unquestionably appealing to you, I don’t expect you to have any sympathy or sensitivity for the reaction, but it’s real, and it’s what’s been showing up consistently in opinion polls and in the attitudes of realistic Republican politicos.

  5. Granted he’s a nut, but he leans more in one direction than another, probably like Cornel West, thinks that Obama didn’t surcame the banks,
    or some such nonsense, probably is for the public option

  6. via

    caitieparker @lakarune I haven’t seen [Jared Loughner] since ’07. Then, he was left wing.

    caitieparker @antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.

    caitieparker @antderosa he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven’t seen him in person since ’07 in a sign language class

    caitieparker @antderosa He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in ’07, asked her a question & he told me she was “stupid & unintelligent”

  7. If Sullivan has apologized for jumping the gun, in his passive aggressive
    way, you think you would do so. Historically, h e seems more in the Guiteau-Cgoltz, continuum for lack of a better template, Maybe he followed Kos’s admonitions back in the summer of 2008

  8. @ miguel cervantes:
    Congratulations to you and Patterico for demonstrating what a mild form of the syndrome looks like/making Kos look good by comparison. Compare that jpg to Jesse Kelly’s assault rifle fetishism:

    Or to this:

    …and all the other pandering she does to a militia sensibility.

    Again, the point isn’t that Palin did more than contribute to the atmosphere. In the wake of events like this one, that’s more than enough.

    And if you really want someone in politics and media who’s enough of a lunatic to compare to this guy, with a lot of the same fixations, I think you know exactly who that would be. Another good friend of SP’s.

  9. George Jochnowitz wrote:

    @ fuster:
    Pat Buchanan licks Islamic ass.

    Good for you, George. Buchanan is not a nice man and probably doesn’t much care for the Islamists but is willing to stick his tongue anywhere that he thinks will be harmful for Jews. He’s not merely anti-Israeli, he’s the real deal in bigotry.
    I remember when Guiliani was mayor. Boy, did he lick Chasidic ass.

  10. You know Colin, maybe you should have shuttered this site when you had the chance. Because you have lost your bloody mind, comparing me to a butcher like Laughner, who murders children, defending Hamas
    terrorists, who also coincidentally murder children; and I see none of you, defended me, so frankly goodbye

  11. Well, I hope the rest of you – er, both of you – fuster and George – feel just horrible about not having defended miguel from a non-existent insult.

    Really, no one needs to make up an excuse or pretext to stop participating.

  12. @ fuster:
    I am an insult to migs, in case you haven’t noticed. The world is an insult to migs. It makes him feel better to imagine that it was all of our personal failings that drove him away.

    He holds you responsible for not defending him, and gives you no chance to clear up whatever misunderstanding.

    It’s not just this horrid discussion with the flagrant insults that you somehow failed to notice… If you really loved him you would have shown him more kindness all along. When was the last time you sent him flowers? Did you even remember your last anniversary?

  13. who can say what anyone sees in anyone? maybe I’m short and green, but I’m well-groomed and don’t expect too much.

  14. People are good. People all deserve respect.
    There are, however, people who do bad things. They do so because they are trying to be good but have been misled by their faith in a cuckoo doctrine. For example, Muslims who blow themselves up in order to destroy mosques and kill other Muslims–the most common form of violence nowadays–are doing so because they believe they are being kind to Islam and to the world.

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