Democracy Is Obsolete — The League of Ordinary Gentlemen
In short: We condemned East Germany for a lot less than what we are doing to ourselves, right this moment. Whoever you vote for in November, that fact will not change.
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might be that you have a thing for “risen”
I tried leaving a comment on that crud, but hours later it’s still unappeared.
is that SOP ?
first ever time on the site…..no links, not even a scornful tone and the comment box already had my handle and e-address loaded
——went back to site …and the frog has landed!
sometime between 11:30 EDT and now ….comment hopped onto the page ….some three hours after marked submission.
what was Kuznicki DOING with it during that time???
(and BTW your comment of 12:42 was rather a nice answer to that silly nickwit)
they recently switched to a new commenting system visible on the back end… wouldn’t surprise me if it’s some kind of glitch… also if your comment had links in it… might have gotten stuck on moderation… you also might have received some kind of ID verification e-mail
And as for “risen,” no – I just liked the self-consciousness of E Germans, after WW2, composing a national anthem that rises up “out of the ruins” (“aus Ruinen”), and retains the focus on destruction and re-birth, except when it ventures into revolutionary communism in the line after the one I quoted, which is even more actively combative than in the translation – more “when we unite as brothers we strike the enemy of the people” not “defeat.” At the same time, it’s a German national anthem, not an East German national anthem. As you probably know, the West German national anthem (except for a few years when they tried to foist a different song on the Germans) was and is the old Deutschlandlied, but with the first two verses suppressed, since peoples kinda had and still have a problem with “Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles” as you may kinda recall.
The inescapability of history is always a fascinating theme to me.
THere’s a metric ton of irony, in your statement, the Nazis prevailed because the Communist attacked the most direct anti fascists in the Social Democrats, part of the Second International, then Stalin used
the Nazi threat, after a certain interlude, to legitimize his stance as the only legitimate opposition to them , The Abwehr then used the contacts in the Weimar era, among Russian forces, to plant a coup
suggestion to Stalin,
CK MacLeod: And as for “risen,” no – I just liked the self-consciousness of E Germans, after WW2, composing a national anthem that rises up “out of the ruins” (“aus Ruinen”), and retains the focus on destruction and re-birth,
maybe soon, after the destruction of the white supremacist government running Arizona, they’ll be songs extolling their capitol city rising from the ashes.
I pointed out this many moons ago, it seems, yes Marx thanks to Engels great generosity, was able to hang out in the British
Libraries, butcher Hegel to his purpose, that’s what qualifies as ‘respectability in your eyes, Lenin of course sought to move the process along,, and the German General Staff obliged him.yet again, generations later,
Oh, the idealism of Rosa Luxembourg, seriously spare me, of course the Allies were fooled, that doesn’t speak highly of them,
quite the contrary, the error is in thinking there are’no enemies on the left’
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch05.htm
N o, as with the Lenin link, it was not out of altruism that they fought they aided the Allies, was because they had bet the wrong way, by the late early 30s, all the parties in Europe were totally subordinated to Stalin, and their main enemy was the Social
Democrats, the irony doesn’t occur to you.
No, they stuck a bloody knife into the Weimar Republic, because they thought they would be the victors, the leadership did, the rank and file didn’t know, ‘They chose poorly’ in the short run, enabling the Nazis, then later pretended to be guarantors of Democracy, the same was true of most other parties in Europe, in the interim, they declared themselves antiwar from ’39-41.
Well a little background here, from the follower of a leader foolish enough to get ice picked by Mercader,
http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/wright/1941/06/valtin.htm
I’m beginning to see why Trotskyites, had a hard time of it.
http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/wright/1935/03/stalin.htm
I assume that you put up this re-print of Kuznicki’s nonsense primarily to hasten the departure of the of the picture of the glasses guy, rather than because you really thought Kuznicki’s thing was all that funny.