A giant, crazy, obvious problem with intellectual society is assumption of a liberal teleology–that progress is embedded in Zeitgeist.
— Paul Musgrave (@profmusgrave) February 23, 2017
Thus right wing movements are taken as insufficient understanding of reality, not as ideological constructs on their own right.
— Paul Musgrave (@profmusgrave) February 23, 2017
"If we could just show reactionaries this proof, they would understand that their emotions are wrong."
— Paul Musgrave (@profmusgrave) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave an "ideological construct" is by definition something other than an inquiry into the truth. So it 's the opposite assumption.
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave …That these non-liberal, non-progressive discourses are merely ideological and constructed.
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave so the question would be whether they (and we) are open to having our ideas challenged and our prejudices overcome…
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave …The prejudice against prejudice that is in a strong sense a liberal and progressive, necessary presumption. (Peirce, Hegel)
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017
@CK_MacLeod but progressive and liberal ideas are also constructed…
— Paul Musgrave (@profmusgrave) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave There are progressive and liberal ideologies or ideological constructs, but the desirability of progress and its attainment…
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave …via rational and open ("liberal") inquiry remain pre-conditions of any authentic (authentically "discursive") discussion.
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017
@CK_MacLeod I'm running around doing things but I'm finding this fascinating. One big difference we may have regards assumptions' status.
— Paul Musgrave (@profmusgrave) February 23, 2017
@profmusgrave we can continue later at some time of mutual convenience… I'd prefer some other venue!
— CK MacLeod (@CK_MacLeod) February 23, 2017