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On “Operation Stop Palin Gets Rolling

i predicted she would destroy the GOP.
give meh props. :)

one of the best exchanges i have ever had here in the blogverse, was the Dostoyesky Torture discussion, where we had two honest, defensible positions.
that is pretty rare.

Palin is the TP/GOP's frankenstein monster...perfectly crafted to enchant the low information base....but like the poor monster, she has always carried the seeds of movement conservatism's doom.

On “It’s strange, sure is strange

well.....delaware has the second highest proportion of scientists and engineers per 1k citizens in the nation....i think they would vote for a witch before they would vote for a Young Earth Creationist.

CHRISTINE O'DONNELL: Well, creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that God created the Earth in six days, six 24-hour periods. And there is just as much, if not more, evidence supporting that

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On “Bleeding Heart Conservatives

plz rescue my comment Highlander?

On “All the little Tea Party Americans in the world

/sigh

the NAACP is just saying, if you want our votes stop pandering to the racists in your ranks.
Do you think hollering WE ARE NOT RACISTS will get you a single black voter?
Do you think this will help?

Dear Mr. Lincoln
We Colored People have taken a vote and decided that we don’t cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!

In fact we held a big meeting and took a vote in Kansas City this week. We voted to condemn a political revival of that old abolitionist spirit called the ‘tea party movement’.

The tea party position to “end the bailouts” for example is just silly. Bailouts are just big money welfare and isn’t that what we want all Coloreds to strive for? What kind of racist would want to end big money welfare? What they need to do is start handing the bail outs directly to us coloreds! Of course, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is the only responsible party that should be granted the right to disperse the funds.

And the ridiculous idea of “reduce[ing] the size and intrusiveness of government.” What kind of massa would ever not want to control my life? As Coloreds we must have somebody care for us otherwise we would be on our own, have to think for ourselves and make decisions!

The racist tea parties also demand that the government “stop the out of control spending.” Again, they directly target Colored People. That means we Colored People would have to compete for jobs like everybody else and that is just not right.

Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government “stop raising our taxes.” That is outrageous! How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?

Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong.

Sincerely

Precious Ben Jealous, Tom’s Nephew National Association for the Advancement of Colored People Head Colored Person

On “Flamesem & Japesem (while Laughing at the Ground)

@ CK MacLeod:

That’s not their plan, IMO, to the extent “they” have a plan, but, if it is, it’s a very poor plan.

lol.
they plan to bleed us dry.
how many more trillions can we pour into MENA?
insurgency is cheap.

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@ CK MacLeod: lies. Both the Karzai and Maliki governments are wholly informed by islamic jurisprudence.
american soljahs are still dying in Iraq ....nearly a hundred so far this summer.......so are homosexuals.
You say, Highlander, that there is marginal improvement?
Relly? Where?
And at what cost to America?
Was it worth it? is the terrorist threat reduced?
the brutal truth is that 5000 american soljahs died because Bush was too stupid to understand that muslims vote for MORE islam when they can vote.
do you think GW "god/magog" Bush WANTED shariah law in the constitution?
hahaha
retards.

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Colin has already pointed out to you that voting for an Islamic constitution is not a problem unless you believe that Islam is a problem. You seem to need reminding of that.

then why is COIN trying to nationbuild secular infrastructure (for example, schools) instead of bricolaging existing islamic jurisprudence? My argument is the third culture argument of social network theory. Its BIOLOGY. COIN creates more terrorists than it kills. Because influence propagates along twice as many network connections....both socio-political and consanguinous. So it it is simple mathematics.
The Bush Doctrine aka "democracy promotion" never once acknowledged the fact that muslims will vote for Islam, not secularism, when they get to vote.
conservatives are stupid.

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all.
In recent examination of the failure of COIN and the mini-surge exposed by McChrystal’s resignation/firing in Afghanistan…. at Abu Muqawama’s counterinsurgency blog, it became apparent that COIN has the same flawed base premise as the Bush Doctrine….that somehow when empowered to vote, aka “democracy promotion”, the citizens of Iraq and Afghanistan will vote for quasi-secular judeoxian-style democracy. In al-Islam the clergy are the lawyers, and vice versa. There is no secular substrate to build on– ISLAMIC law is the only rule of law available. Unless Bush was prepared to go into Iraq and build secular law schools from the ground up, and wait 50 years or so for the model of the rule of secular law to permeate the nation, the whole misadventure was doomed to Epic Fail.
So the upshot is 5000 young american soldiers have died because Bush and his “advisors” were apparently too stupid to realize that when muslims can vote, they vote for MORE Islam, not less.
I understand that even the Obama administration might not want to acknowledge this…it is pretty demoralizing for the troops. But this is the identical reason that COIN is failing. Because of the Dragon’s Teeth Axiom of SNT (social network theory) even population-centric COIN actually generates more terrorists than it kills. The reason COIN was successful in Anbar, is that al-Q was not local. But the Taliban ARE local, and so influence propagates among two networks, both the social connection and the consanguinous connection.
The only way to fix COIN is to start to exploit the existing “brightest” (most powerful) local influence nodes, the mosques and the local islamic jurisprudents/muslim clergy.
Leverage “the consent of the governed.”
But to do that we have to give up on the War on Islam.
The raving about shariah, stonings, fgm, and little girls not going to school is just misdirection at this point.
It is simply a way of not having to admit that we expensed 5000 troops in blood, and a trillion dollahs in treasure, to create an islamic state in Iraq with shariah in the constitution, religious political parties, and that declared a national holiday when american troops left the cities. And where islamic jurisprudence still calls the shots. Fadlallah was a major advisor to Maliki.
I think that realization would be heartbreaking for the families of the fallen.
But it is going to come eventually.
And meanwhile we have a choice in Afghanistan. Use COIN to bricolage the substrate, the existing embedded system of islamic jurisprudence to create a rule of islamic law, or expense more blood and treasure to achieve the identical result we got in Iraq…..after another 6 or 8 years.

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@ Joe NS:they died for Bush's intransigent stupidity then. they died because Bush and his "advisors"
thought they could create a quasi-secular judeoxian democracy in MENA.
"That aside, here’s the neocon logic, as best I can explain: When a reporter acknowledges the passing of a revered, if controversial figure in a way that doesn’t sufficiently convey what a completely evil terrorist neocons think that figure was — that’s unacceptable. But when the United States spends nearly a trillion dollars, loses over four thousand of its own troops and over a hundred thousand Iraqis to establish a new government largely dominated by that same “terrorist’s” avowed acolytes — that’s victory."

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@ CK MacLeod:5000 soljahs and 100000 muslims died for NOTHING.
im sure your argument is great comfort to the families of the fallen.

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also too, al-Q is mostly Team Jacob.

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You idiots, the reason you have to demonize Islam, is that is the only justification you have left for 5000 dead american soljahs and a trillion dollahs of taxpayer money. The Bush doctrine could never have worked. The clergy ARE the lawyers and the government in MENA--what you are going to? Build secular law schools from the ground up?
Retards. COIN is failing because it is based on the moronic Bush Doctrine. When muslims can vote, they just vote for MORE Islam.
So Iraq is an islamic state with shariah law in the constitution, religious political parties, that declared a national holiday holiday when the americans left Iraqi cities. And the religious clerics still control the government-- Imam Fadlallah was one of Malikis chief advisors. Eventually the american people are going to realize that 5000 young american soldiers died for NOTHING.
So you rave about fgm and stoning and suicide bombers......but it won't change the facts on the ground.
The Bush Doctrine creates islamic states at a horrific cost to Americans.....and COIN makes more terrorists than it kills.

On “From Somalia without love

@ Zoltan Newberry:well i don't know Z.....do you suppose Bush ever has a sleepless night over the 6000+ american kids he killed because he was too stupid to realize that muslims will vote for Islam when they can vote?

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@ Zoltan Newberry:Ok that is enough.
Do you know why you have to demonize al-Islam? Because otherwise 6000 young american soljahs have died for nothing...SO FAR. The Bush Doctrine could NEVER WORK. More democracy in MENA means more Islam.
Even I am not heartless enough to disabuse our noble young soljahs and their families about the cause they supposedly serve.
AHA is a heartless JAFI that doesn't give a shit about us muslimahs as long as she can sell books to middleaged white guys like you Z.
She is pure evil, and the best friend of the broken glass grannies that mutilated her.

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You aren't neocons....you are neocols.
neocolonialists.
you believe in the intrinsic superiority of western culture and government.

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who knows more about Islam in practice than anyone here will ever know.

but i am a muslimah. AHA only knows how Islam is practiced in the primitive third world country of Somalia.
that is all.
My sister Willow lived in Cairo.
My brother Thabet lives in the UK.

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@ George Jochnowitz:yeah, like i could have helped save the students and imams that have been imprisoned, tortured and killed under the Tyrant Khamenei. Are you aware that she is really a turkish womans rights activist being tried on a fake charge? She is actually a political dissadent and the Tyrant reopened her case inorder to eliminate her. This isnt about Islam it is about tyranny.
Perhaps if i could have travelled back in time and assassinated Nixon then the whole operation ajax-tyrant/american puppet shah reza palavi-CIA coup could have been avoided, and democratically elected Prime Minister Mossadegh would have created a much stronger and more just islamic republic that didnt stone adulterers and kill and imprison dissidents.
But time travel to the past is impossible, because of closed-form time curves.
Both Hawking and Carroll said so.

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world conquering ideology

but that is the definition and goal of ANY religion.

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today’s Islam carries an inherent animosity toward the rest of us...

bullshytt.
a lot of muslims carry an inherent animosity toward the rest of you....you might ax yourself why, Z.
al-Islam is a religion....it can't carry anything.
colonialism, imperialism, the crusades, big white christian bwana, missionariism, the British Raj, Operation Ajax, propping dictators like Uncle Saddam, the post WWII partition of MENA states, the partion of muslim lands to assuage ameri-euro holocaust guilt...need more?

oh..that is why you cherry pick the Qur'an-- to find evidence that WE started it!
you dumbasses.
you started it.
now go home with your broken teeth and empty pocketbooks.

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@ Rex Caruthers: i bet our 100000 soljahs there care. and their commanding officers....and the CinC.

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Now Hirsi Ali is honest about her experience

:cough cough: bullshytt :cough:
well she LIED in my link.
she DELIBERATELY misrepresented the AAP proposed symbolic nicking as a somalian puberty rite of the same name.
why would she do that?

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None of it negates the existence of the believers who bombed the London subway, the Madrid railway, carried out 9/11

george ...
fundamentalists and millenialists create terror. its what they do, whether they are in the US or in MENA. There are only two base types of homo sap. and those are conservative and liberal.
so in MENA you get OBL and Mullah Omar and in the US you get Tim McVeigh, Scott Roeller, and the Hutaree. The difference is we have a functional government and the rule of law here. In MENA, not so much.
Demonizing all Islam might make you feel special, but that is what caused the EPIC FAIL of COIN and the Bush Doctrine in MENA.
Don't mistake me, we are going home with broken teeth in Afghanistan. Petraeus is talking to the Taliban.
We had a chance to make the good parts of al-Islam our ally.
Instead America surrendered to fear and ignorance and hate.

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@ CK MacLeod: oh that is right, jews don't proselytize. ;)
muslims accept that all the People of the Book worship Allah, christians and jews alike.

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One of the magdalenes could write a good book about Catholic abuse too, you idiots.
Did you see the movie?
the magdalene asylums were extant in Ireland right up into the late 70s.
about the time AHA got cut by a broken glass grannie.
i guess that why she wants more little american girls to share her experience.

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