Comments on Cost of Islamophobia 3 – Islamism and Modernity by fertiziling treefrog

@ The False Witness Bear

nicely, nicely.
hard to let "dither and tut" pass w/o mention.

Zoltan Newberry wrote:

Thanks to our prevailing pee cee over eager insistence on not too harshly judging what may simply be legitimate differences of culture and opinion, 12 innocents were murdered at Fort Hood.

Zolt, it night be more thanks to our system of law that requires people to be allowed their freedom until they break the law.....

And Major Hassan, who had no bidness being a major, is a hero in much of the Islamic World.

how much of the Islamic World considers him a hero?
or is that just a guess or a rhetorical point or a bunch of banana cream?

@ George Jochnowitz:

But I love it when they let me hop up and down on that big bass drum atop the bandwagon.

Now stop being such a nudnik. No country on this earth is above criticism and no nation is weakened when people look to correct that nation's flaws.

I remain a rather patriotic American and never an anti-Zionist, George.
I'll leave some words from Katherine Lee Bates.

America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

@ George Jochnowitz:and I enjoy your immoderate immodesty immeasurably.

@ George Jochnowitz:

Express your views, George. Take the chance....,7340,L-3906108,00.html,7340,L-3906456,00.html

@ George Jochnowitz:

I spent a fair bit of time sticking that story in the eyes of my pals who can't stop crying over America's inhumane treatment of other people....

and BTW, the outcry against that outrage was quite universal in every part of the world, George, including those parts that you think wouldn't spare a second to interrupt their Israeli-hating.
the Taliban had to have a wave of "spokesmen" deny that it was they who murdered that boy.

@ George Jochnowitz:

Taliban hang 7-year-old boy accused of being a spy, suicide bomber ...‎
New York Daily News - Corky Siemaszko - Jun 10, 2010
Twisted Taliban militants took terror to a new low by accusing a 7-year-old boy of spying - and hanging him high. That outrage drew immediate condemnation ...
Video: David Cameron in Afghanistan ITN NEWSTaliban allegedly executes 7-year-old boy: British PM Cameron ...‎ - Dscriber (blog)
Taliban Aim at Officials in a Wave of Killings‎ - New York Times - Los Angeles Times
all 4365 news articles
4365, 4365,4365,4365, 4365, 4365,4365,4365,4365

@ narciso:

have I been transformed?

@ narciso:

yes,narc, yes!!!!! every time Al Sharpton lies, it proves that Islam is nothing but crazed killers!!!!!!

the men who raped Tawana Brawley were all Salafists!!!

@ narciso:
narc, my city is chock-full of "major religious figures"

we had Meier Kahane, we have Rev Sharpton.

when a "major religious figure" says something that isn't a full crock, I'm pretty much surprised.

@ narciso:

narc, he wrote something that says that the Christians were running an obnoxious trick, they have a legal right to do so and a moral obligation to refrain from doing so and that firebombing their churches is forbidden by the religion that people were saying they were defending.

But if you are determined to find something to be offended by in what he wrote, feel free.

Personally I think that he should have himself gone around, found the firebombers and crucified them, burned twice as many mosques,
and changed water into wine.

narciso wrote:

No, it’s been everything since the Lappen article that I RecBrowed seemingly eons ago, they firebombed churches and that is his answer,

"Fire bombing churches? From the beginning of Islam, the Prophet said our faith requires us as Muslims to protect houses of worship of all other faith traditions. Islam was able to spread throughout the world, not only because of its own ideas, but also because it protected people’s rights to practise religion freely."

Is there a problem with his answer?

@ narciso:

My message to the Christian community in Malaysia is that using the word Allah to mean the Christian God may be theologically and legally correct, but in the context of Malaysia, it is socially provocative. If you want to have influence with people in Malaysia, you must find a way to convey your message without provoking this kind of response.

If you want to reach the Malays, then use the Malay word for God, which is Tuhan.

Is that what you find to be incitement to violence? That's about the only thing I could think you might mean.

@ narciso:

Would you agree that Palin is generally ignorant, selfish and a quitter?

@ narciso:

narc, do you remember when the Earth blew up and we didn't

@ CK MacLeod:

Wait for strangelet to figure out what you were saying.

strangelet wrote:

representative islamic republic like Iran

I assume you didn't type that straight-facedly.