Don't see how the position "disregards" possible disagreement any more than any other position strongly held, or held at all. To believe one thing as opposed to another is inherently or implicitly to hold the other position in lower "regard" in some sense.
As for a full cross-comparative critique of the history and theory of the sexual division of labor, I'll hold off on that - though I recall a past bigly pointless discussion, somewhat pointlessly discussed here: https://ckmacleod.com/2013/06/06/not-discussing-a-conservative-understanding-of-the-sexual-division-of-labor/ Same goes for the presumptions underlying "unattached to a free-willed human being who makes decisions for its use." In the meantime, presuming that men simply "had it better" under the old regime removes some of the best arguments for the modern one, it seems to me.
Not a source of shame, b-p, necessarily, or only in the sense that "shame" and sexual exclusivity originate in certain organic realities of childbearing and -raising in pre-modern environments - when infant mortality was a leading cause of death, first for babies, and then for mothers; when paternity was always inherently uncertain; and when simple, effective, inexpensive birth control wasn't widely available. Simply to presume, however, that the old regulation of sexual desire is completely obsolete, or that the initial adaptations to the removal of the old problems are good, balanced, and sustainable, may be mistaken.
The "Real Blame" in conservatives' eyes would be connected to the destruction of virtue, which used to be one effect of rape, an injury to both the direct victim and all of her relations, and now is in this conservative view a cause of rape or what is called rape, and in another sense is already a kind of slow-motion achievement of the same destructive effect. To put it baldy, in case I wasn't clear enough in the post, Will et all seem to think and to be saying or coming very close to saying that progressivism produces an equivalent of rape, that the Swarthmore woman was already as-though-raped, or "destroyed," and that, if there is a rape culture, then the hook-up culture is the real rape culture. The event that six weeks later the victim chooses to view as rape would in this scheme be the culmination of an extended process of degradation. Some radical feminists might once have agreed in some ways.
Ah - now I think I see what you mean. It seems to me that precisely what you describe would be within the outer limit of the crime of rape according to the new definition, and to be appalled with the ghastly Will over his expressing his view does seem at least to evoke the distance between political correctness and how people live.
Don't see how the position "disregards" possible disagreement any more than any other position strongly held, or held at all. To believe one thing as opposed to another is inherently or implicitly to hold the other position in lower "regard" in some sense.
As for a full cross-comparative critique of the history and theory of the sexual division of labor, I'll hold off on that - though I recall a past bigly pointless discussion, somewhat pointlessly discussed here: https://ckmacleod.com/2013/06/06/not-discussing-a-conservative-understanding-of-the-sexual-division-of-labor/ Same goes for the presumptions underlying "unattached to a free-willed human being who makes decisions for its use." In the meantime, presuming that men simply "had it better" under the old regime removes some of the best arguments for the modern one, it seems to me.
Not a source of shame, b-p, necessarily, or only in the sense that "shame" and sexual exclusivity originate in certain organic realities of childbearing and -raising in pre-modern environments - when infant mortality was a leading cause of death, first for babies, and then for mothers; when paternity was always inherently uncertain; and when simple, effective, inexpensive birth control wasn't widely available. Simply to presume, however, that the old regulation of sexual desire is completely obsolete, or that the initial adaptations to the removal of the old problems are good, balanced, and sustainable, may be mistaken.
The "Real Blame" in conservatives' eyes would be connected to the destruction of virtue, which used to be one effect of rape, an injury to both the direct victim and all of her relations, and now is in this conservative view a cause of rape or what is called rape, and in another sense is already a kind of slow-motion achievement of the same destructive effect. To put it baldy, in case I wasn't clear enough in the post, Will et all seem to think and to be saying or coming very close to saying that progressivism produces an equivalent of rape, that the Swarthmore woman was already as-though-raped, or "destroyed," and that, if there is a rape culture, then the hook-up culture is the real rape culture. The event that six weeks later the victim chooses to view as rape would in this scheme be the culmination of an extended process of degradation. Some radical feminists might once have agreed in some ways.
Ah - now I think I see what you mean. It seems to me that precisely what you describe would be within the outer limit of the crime of rape according to the new definition, and to be appalled with the ghastly Will over his expressing his view does seem at least to evoke the distance between political correctness and how people live.
Which or whose viewpoint would that be, Mr.Phrog - if you can describe it without expressing it?