Since this topic has reached the Times, and now has gone beyond absurd, I think the House and Senate Republicans need a little epistemic closure, if just to realize why they should oppose such a bad bill.

I really like Casino Royale, even though they run it a little too often lately, the obstacle course on the construction yard in Motaba, the
chase at the airport, the card game itself loses steam, and the torture scene was innovative enough that a recent Gitmo detainee took it for his own narrative

All right I'll give Olga and throw in Gemma Arterton, before she was covered in oil, but it's just grand guignol enough I'm sorry

It was too pedestrian a scheme, compared to Zorin's psychotic earth quake plot, Stromberg's sub launching super tanker, Drax's space station, I know Die another DAy, went too far, but there has to be
a happy medium.

Back on thread, epistemic closure, has hit the Times, with all the usual
suspects, and of course, none of the context, well played Jim

I agree with you on Casino Royale, but an hour in what is supposed to be Haiti, a face off in the Atacama desert, plus the plot right out of
the Guardian, too much Bourne influence, Quantum is supposed to be
the successor to SPECTRE, but it just doesn't pass muster as the big rival

Ck, Weitzman?? Mann, Oppenheimer, Schneider, et al, have been driving the process for 20 years, the possibility of AGW is an important issue, well lets debate it, lets see how they gather and even interpret their data, let's not take it as a fait accompli.

There are some statements, that knowledge and or experience, prove that are beyond debate. I'm not going to ever accept that Fidel had the right idea, McCarthy is not going to accept that Militant Islam is a good move, and in light of the patent fraud of the IPCC (re the most recent browse) AGW is a sham. Now Mr. Sanchez wants to accept that as a premise, just as surely as he'll support the 'war on drugs' sure when pigs fly. Why accept a lie as truth, maybe we go overboard in challenging a premise that is so ludicrous. First, the evidence isn't there, and the measures to solve this non existent crisis. But the first is a priori

They have to stop with the Byzantine scripts like "Quantum of Solace"
and some of the settings, Haiti, for the better part of an hour, the
Atacama desert, "Royale" had good pacing, but this one lagged for
long stretches. Don't laugh, but that might very well be the next villain

That does seem to be the point of the game, Joe, that our esteemed host doesn't get. When they are running a shell game, like with the
health care leviathan, cap n trade, this new 'financial reform' boondoggle and we're impolite in pointing out that's its a con. The
beautiful plumage of the Norwegian Blue, doesn't obscure the fact
that it's bleeding demised, ceased to be, But lo and behold to the ones who point out that the emperor does not indeed have a new set of clothes

I had forgotten all about that aspect of that book, actually quite nearly that book, she went on to the Rome series but then careened
of course since then

We have seen that the real epistemic closure is in institutions like the IPCC, buttressed by the Soros org, despite the dog food they've been serving up for 20 years, from the classroom to the congressional hearing, the dogs won't bite. This in turn supports another huge
confidence game, called cap n trade, whose windfall for connected parties are in the trillions of dollars, based on constructs not real products. All the while, making the life of the average citizen, 'nasty, brutish and short'

What ranckles is that Manzi seems to be too charitable to what appears to be a fraud of collossal proportion, that looks to be a
toxic assault on the American economy, for no good purpose

No, my dear Kate, it would seem Obama is the Nyarlathop in the equation. It can't be his work at the CAC, the results of which were
seen at Altgeld Gardens, while the Olympics selection was going on, they chose Rio, a tropical Dantesque landscape instead, He fixed his first state house race, and did the same for his Senate bid. He did nothing of note there, except a whistleblower bill that he has proceeded to violate, all the while was in the pocket of all the culprits of the subprime crisis, all the while acting as the champion of the people, while creating the grounds for yet another sham,
the socalled financial reform and cap n trade bill. All the while serving as the model of the modern American idiot, to paraphrase
Montaner, Mendoza, and Vargas Llosa

By contrast Palin has been all about reform, and she has the scars
to prove it, from her fights with the party establishment up there
above the lower 48, to the Alinskyite machine that took over the
Democratic apparatus, who have heaped no end of slurs and slanders upon her family, her status as a wife and mother. And yet she persists fighting for the issues that matter, in ethics, economy
and defense

In Britain, they had the odious Stern Review, based on the same cooked data, it was even the subtext for an episode of their version
of '24, which took it for a fact,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Review

Really CK , you've deleted Kermit's comments for a far less vicious diatribe than Kate,the wannabe Quellist, there were some comments
that were somewhat adhominem but Joe's really doesn't qualify. She
shows the same courtesy af Jeff Goldstein's shop by the way

I've been in contact with someone on another blog, who for most of last year, mostly by linking from Anthony Watts, and other sources,
was giving me all the data on Yamal Briffa, decadal oscillations, maunder minimums and all the other fluctuations, that comprise what could be considered 'a travesty of two mockeries of a sham" long before I heard on Climategate, they went cold in the monthes before
the East Anglia revelations came to light, and reappeared shortly
after

This of course, is the problem with this whole notion, we live and breath these notions, it maybe we react against the mind numbing
notions that theirs, and by that I mean the usual suspects view are
the only ones that matters. Hence the post hires more with these
notionshttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/epistemic_closure.html, and it becomes a scandal when anyone
on the right, who has a strong position, Gerson doesn't count, ends
up on the editorial board, like Thiessen who gives our dear webbed
friend, all sorts of gas

That's just way too strange, sorry

It does kind of beg the question, back in the mid 70s, the left was forecasting global cooling, the horrible film "Zardoz" is one of the
relics of that period, why didn't they pick up on the trend before.
just a dozen years later.

But as I've pointed out earlier, ad infinitum, we can't help but encounter the left's statist arguments they are everywhere. It is
they who either are ignorant or misrepresent ours, and that link to American Scene, a nominally conservative outfit, which is spouting
'dead left meme' as Keynes would say if he were alive today, after
being very surprised

My skepticism was really sparked by Lomborg, who does believe in AGW
but is not a sufficient problem to be concerned with, at least with the solutions being presented. McKibben is being interviewed in my local fishwrap and Moses has less adoring press. Stephen Chu, our illustrious
energy vizier wants any bill, we can find out what's in it later, much like
Madame Alessandri says

Pronoun trouble, I refer in this case to the above figures, who have been caught in various and sundry misrepresentations, and they silence
any critic as an oil company stooge, puppet of big carbon, a very Stalinist way of doing things, or in my native land, la coletilla, the little tail, that was put on 'running dog lackies' like the Diario de La Marina'. There maybe a silent majority of scientists, but everybody
who really diverts from the norm is Alinskied, their imput doesn't get
into the textbooks, or the audiovisual supplements, are scrubbed from Wikipedia. The Climate gate inquiry has now been directed against the skeptics at last observation

Levin, makes it quite clear that Liberty and Tyranny is polemical, the
AGW alarmists like Gore, McKibben, Pachauri, Jones, state it as incontrovertable fact, what if they are wrong as this would indicate:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.rian.ru/science/20100423/126040500.html&ei=XMXUS-mFKYGK8wTdooDMDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DGlobale%2BAbk%25C3%25BChlung%2Bwird%2BArktis-Rohstoffe%2Bunzug%25C3%25A4nglich%2Bmachen%2B-%2BForscher%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3Dl8%26rls%3Den

They would seem to be problem solvers, but not really, when you examine their premises, we need more food to feed the world, but between objection of GM foods, pesticides, and more conversion of grain to ethanol, they are doing the opposite. We need energy in roughly the same proportion, but they are foreclosing the whole panoply of really effective resources, from nuclear to oil and gas, vs
the alternatives we abandoned centuries ago, because they were
insufficient. There is less focus on learning of basic subjects than the right societal attitude, They focus on the embryonic/adult stem cells, they put roadblocks to the development of new and more
effective drugs. It seems a very bizarre application of science

That may be so about Huckabee, who I do find as cloyingly insincere as all out, who beside his Carteresque mien, wanted to reenact the sad history of Mormon/Christian relations to win the
primary

but that's not really true about Palin, She has a deep some would even say naive faith in this country and what it is capable of.
Hence the three planks of her platform, energy, and the idea of progress, defense of our soldiers and sailors efforts abroad, and the renewal of the American spirit, which she does see in part rooted in faith. This is what drives her to ultimately become Obama's foil, his learned contempt is antithetical Nixon, who came from similar lower middle class roots, hence the attempt to pigeonhole in that slot, was too wracked with bitterness and ultimately it showed through.

Science has taken a downgrade in the estimation of some, with the favoring of embryonic over adult stem cells, and the whole AGW kerfluffle, which really misapprehends the cyclical nature of climate
patterns, the fact that they had to edit part of the climate record,
including the medieval warming period, is instructive. The fact the IPCC was until recently run by a rail road engineer with no meteorological experience, but plenty of interests in this boondoggle
is also instructive. Conservatives are as supportive of technology
and chemistry as any one else, so it seems epistimological blindness
from those imputing it upon us