Comments on From Somalia without love by Rex Caruthers

reluctantly?

Everything is God’s therfore Nothing is Caesar’s

That's the REAL Jesus,not the CONTEXTUAL Jesus. He was most Radical,not caring one whit for earthly power,or any representitive of Earthly Power.

Render unto Caesar etc etc is a very logical,totally ironical statement:

Everything is God's therfore Nothing is Caesar's.

see the adaptation of ‘the Last Temptation of Christ’ by Scorsese

Please don't blame Kazanzakis for what was done to his novel,it was out of Copyright Protection,so even the Kazanzakis estate couldn't stop Scorese.

Sully/Take it to a simpler case. do you get as exercised about the doings of Bomber Harris and Curtis LeMay as you do about Herman Goering and Hideki Tojo who were trying to kill my dad and uncles (along with your dad and uncles and a bunch of other people).

Here's a simpler case,I never approve of terrorists who shot down airliners,I never approve of terrorists killing Olympic athletes,NO EXCEPTIONS.

Stranglet/you believe in the intrinsic superiority of western culture and government.

Au Contraire,I am a student of Gibbon,Spengler,Toynbee, I think the writing is on the wall for both of the above,however,in terms of tactics(Short term reality)I believe that the only choice the American Empire has to maintain power,and it will only work temporarily,is to obtain by force,(using a pretext to soften the appearance),the assets of other nations using them to keep the Social-financial-military-welfare-complex from collapsing us as it did the USSR,we are closer to that collapse than anyone believes possible,so we have become exceedingly dangerous.

CK MacLeod wrote:
@ Rex Caruthers:
If I’m one of those evil neo-cons, LPC is part of my extended political clan. Therefore, his alleged crimes don’t stink to me like the crimes of members of the Hatfield Islamist clan.

CK,Then, You would be the only NeoCon on this planet ,who would admit that LPC is part of your extended political clan. Your escape clause is "IF". Everyone else in the NeoCON camp treats LPC as non-existant,and when pushed, becomes evasive(#66),Newspeakian 62,65,68,"opinions are now facts", Super-legalistic,#67

The easiest way is to agree that LPC's organization and Black September are variations on a theme,but the far right including the NeoCons and The Right of Return Cubans,and the Worst of the Cold Warriors can't go there.

George/The Marxist-Islamic Alliance is alive and well. Why is LPC in jail?

He isn't,he's living like a rich dude in Miami

Parson/NON-EXCLUSIVE DISJUNCTION,"
"XOR" redirects here. For other uses, see XOR (disambiguation).
For the corresponding concept in combinational logic, see XOR gate.
"The logical operation exclusive disjunction, also called exclusive or (symbolized XOR, EOR, EXOR, or ⊕), is a type of logical disjunction on two operands that results in a value of true if exactly one of the operands has a value of true.[1] A simple way to state this is "one or the other but not both."
Put differently, exclusive disjunction is a logical operation on two logical values, typically the values of two propositions, that produces a value of true only in cases where the truth value of the operands differ"
LOL

CK MacLeod wrote:
@ Rex Caruthers:
I care more about my dog than your dog. I care more about my kid than your kid.

How is LPC your kid or your dog?

narciso wrote:
Except there is the annoying aspect that he didn’t do it

Great,since you know that for a fact,testify for your hero,I'd even agree to have the American taxpayers pay for his defense,he could be tried in any location his lawyer would agree to,but,in my opinion, he needs to be tried,I'm sure you will think of a reason he should continue living comfortably where he is without the inconvenience of some legal process,reward for years of loyal service for our freedom.

Don't Wanta Know wrote:
@ CK MacLeod:
Just so.
A long way of saying “Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue.”
And, can’t find the quote now but ~ ‘we sleep safe in our beds because hard men patrol the frontiers of freedom.

What does this have to do with Carrilles living like a Millionaire in Miami safe from extradition? Not arguing,I just want to understand your opinion.

Not sure what you mean by “paraphrase.”

Just restate so I can understand

Consistency is the hobgoblin of uncommitted minds. The extension of moral imagination beyond oneself, one’s family, one’s tribe, community, one’s nation, one’s people, one’s alliance leads to immobilization, pacifism, self-sacrifice, an excuse for every criminal and a criminal for every excuse. It’s no way to run a railroad.

Would you paraphrase this? Thanks

This awaiting Moderation feature is a pain in my ASS.

I wasw reading "REAL" contentions today,and I ran into this article,
"Mohammed Oudeh’s Lesson: Attacking the West Pays"
Evelyn Gordon - 07.08.2010 - 9:08 AM
After Mohammed Oudeh, planner of the terror attack that killed 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics, died this weekend, media obituaries noted that he never regretted his actions. A 2006 interview with AP explained why:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/evelyn-gordon/325096
This reminded me of something I haven't brought up for a while,my old Buddy, Bambi,Luis Posada Carilles. To my peculiar way of thinking,the fact that LPC is living large in Miami Fla,is an example of the US government at its worst. The Superlative hyprocisy here is that we are endlessly commiserating with the horrible events of 1972,(Spielberg FILM) but the death of Cuban athletes due to "AntiCommunist" Terrorism is ignorable. I indict the Neocons in particular on this. I have never read one article on LPC in any Conservative Journal/Newspaper/Blog. If anyone can site one here,I will amend that statment. Blogging at Contentions for years under the appellation RCAR,I brought LPC up every time someone brought up Munich,not one blogger,ever, agreed with me that maybe Bambi was a bad guy who ought to be tried for terrorism elsewhere.
I went to our local newspaper,circulation 1,200,000,where I know some Reporters,we ended a meeting with several of the syndicated columnists working here,Bottom Line,Their Editor "Spiked" any piece about LPC,"Our Readers aren't Interested"
Here's the Deal,I want to hear from Sully,Narc,Zoltan,Joe,BarB,JED,JEM,Adam,Stranglet,George et al. Please think about Bambi in context of the Rhetoric on the WOT,that's where the discussion belongs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles

Conservative and Reform Judaism have ordained women as rabbis for some time.

As have most Protestant Churches;Catholic/Islam are a little behind the curve on women as leaders.

Stranglet/you dumbasses.
you started it.
now go home with your broken teeth and empty pocketbooks

You're right,furthermore we're broke,disgusted with ourselves, for getting involved in the shithole of the world,you'd have thought we would learn from losing 100000 men in shitholes like Korea,and Nam,but,remember,you got lucky,because we had an idiot in charge on 9/11,if there's a second chance,we might do it right. Plus,we really need a transfusion of wealth into our empty pocketbooks.

narciso wrote:
We have gone to the point where we must question everything of our faith, all our institution with a corrosive cynicism, but the Other faith, which has more than a few blemishes, we must take at face value. Has Christianity strayed over 2,000 years, I would be a fool to say no, but it seems Islam was a militant faith from the start, it never had dissident status like the Christians or even the Jews under Seleucid or Roman rule

Interesting comment but the Inquisition/Wars of the Reformation/Catholic Pedophilia are not much related to JC's brief visit to our planet.

strangelet wrote:
@ Rex Caruthers: i bet our 100000 soljahs there care. and their commanding officers….and the CinC

Nope,we don't give a shit. We have no business in Afghanistan,and except for the Brainwashed,the soljahs just want a paycheck and some tuition. And.everybody knows 100000 soljahs isn't near enough to win,including the soljahs, This is a farce,it stops being a farce after the next major attack on us,if Bush hadn't been an idiot,he could have had a real War last time,but next time,it is a real war,it will be a reinactment of what happened to Germany, and Japan,If you Love Islam,you'd better hope that the leaders of Islam will stop the idiots from attacking us,next time its Hiroshima Redux.

she DELIBERATELY misrepresented the AAP proposed symbolic nicking as a somalian puberty rite of the same name

Male or Female Circumcision,symbolic or actual,it's all very STUPID.

tear down the entire basis of a 2,000 year old religion

JC could have cared less about the establisment of a church,or any other display of eartly power/influence. His rejection of Satanic temptations attest to that. See Paradise Regained/Milton. Whenever I see the livery of a Pope and think about JC himself,it makes me smile.

strangelet

Nobody in America except for a handful of Neocons gives a crap about Afghanistan,and that includes the Obama administration,and our Military. Ditto for an Iran with Nukes. However,if there is a 9/11/2,there will be a repeat of WW2 in the neareast,the result will be that we will then control the World's Oil Supply.
There's plenty of incentives for some very bad actors to create a 2nd major attack on the US.

George,if we regard Religious belief in its broadest sense to include Facism,Totaltarianism,Marism,Libertarianism,Racism/anti-Semitism,in addition to any other Isms ,don't we have a Perfect Storm of ISMISM to create constant Chaos. The subconscious function of War is to shake out all these Isms for a while.

George what is the belief that drives America to try and stop other forms of belief,sometimes with war. Is our belief in Exceptionalism any less toxic than the Jews belief that the True God drowned all the "bad" people;the Islamic belief that the nation of Israel is an insult to Allah;the Catholic belief that the Pope is "infallible" in certain respects. Isn't it our job to "Triage"beliefs based on their relationship to "facts"? For example,America is the richest,most powerful country,therfore we are "exceptional",therfore if we Bomb the cities of our enemies,we are in the right,because of our historical destiny.
When JC talked about the Meek,was he attempting to end the reign of Belief(LAW),because no matter what the belief,the poor/meek rarely inherit anything but Debt,so JC was referring to the inheritance of the WORLD after all Belief is extinguished,meaning those people who believe are extinguished.

Stranglet,

Chris Hitchens wrote a book,"God is not Great",his title contained one word too many.
Because God is OOO,Omniscient,Omnipresent,Omnipotent,belief in Him is too corrupting for many people to manage, "Power Corrupts.Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely/Lord Acton. That applies to God itself as well as to those who so absolutely believe in their "exclusive" God. And that includes Christians,Jew,Muslims et al

CK,I can't quite figure out what is so unusually annoying to you about this person. She seems like a version of the American type,"the Village Atheist" like Madlyn Murray O'Hare. And then Stranglet in #1 goes off like she's a Satanic Demon. What's going on?