the policy was adopted by Israel for it’s supporters, Rex.
Israel did not acquire the material for the nukes on their own and the origin of the material wouldn’t be questioned as long as its existence wasn’t acknowledged.
Fuster,it's garbage,your explanation doesn't give it any credibility. In other words,the policy is vestigal. We know the origin,France. Therfore,it's past time to dump it.
Maybe we should put up a “JRub monitor” – though I’d like to see it broken down into number of words as well as posts. With a little more effort, you could sort out it according to topic areas or key words.
Key Words:
Israel Good most important ally very important friend
Bush Good
Iraq War-worth it,surge,we won
Iran Bomb bomb
Obama Bad
Against Obama Good
Liberals Bad
Conservatives Good
Neo-Cons Best
Be that as it may, any surrender agreement would not have mentioned the extermination camps.
It would have mentioned whatever we wanted it to mention. The German General Staff was ready to dump Hitler in 1943 according to Speer,as long as the Germans had been able to retain control of their country/protection against the Russians,they would have made the deal.
Hitler,and all his SS pals would have been thrown under the Bus.Millions of Jews could have been saved,
CK/Not to damn him with faint praise, but why do you put BHO on the list? He seems to be odd man out for his lack of fierce commitment to any particular utopianism.
I put him on there because of his beliefs that have no basis in fact,mainly about War and our Economy.
Here's an example on the Economy:
"The fact remains, however, that the kleptocratic rulers in the US, EU, and other debt-burdened countries know exactly what they are doing: to let the recession drag on, to take advantage of the crushing recession in order to extract “enough” concessions from the working people until welfare states are dismantled and labor costs in the more developed capitalist countries are made competitive with those of the less-developed countries. This explains why despite new signs of further global economic contraction, the reigning governments in these countries (whether they are nominally headed by Socialist, Social-Democratic, Labor, Democratic, Conservative or other parties) are maintaining their coordinated abstention from expansive or stimulating fiscal policies while continuing their brutal spending cuts on health, education, wages, pensions, and the like.
This is not to say that these governments do not want to have economic growth or job-creation—they do—but that they want them on their own (Neoliberal) terms, that is, through Neoliberal policies that would create jobs that would pay wages on a par with those of workers in less-developed countries. In other words, they prefer the kind of lopsided economic growth whose fruits would be reaped mostly by the wealthy—the so-called trickle-down or supply-side economic growth. As writer/reporter Patrick O’Connor points out, “In the US, Europe and other advanced capitalist economies, the aim is permanently reducing the living standards of working people."
http://www.counterpunch.org/zadeh08302010.html
For those of you who are not true believers,here's some excellent analysis on our fiscal health;our economic woes being at the core of a lot of systemic irrationalism around the world.
In order to fix our economic system,we have to make a decision,this is a decision no one in the world political /economic system wants to make:
(1)We make a LONG TERM COMMITTMENT to restore the economy by buttressing the currency with assets in order to restore stability. Like all long term investments,this choice will have some very unpleasant intended/unintended consequences,with the upside being a very robust economy.
(2)We make a SHORT TERM COMMITTMENT by keeping our current system while eliminating the "Debt OverHang/Trillions in Debt Forgiveness". This would free up Trillions in short term borrowing/spending,but we eventually would end up where we are today,having chosen #2,see #1
No,they are A problem,they are a microcasm of the irrational forces that believe what they believe is Truth/Fact without evidence. The Islamists,Ayn Rand,Jennifer Rubin,Sarah Palin,BHO,W43,NPOD are all in this camp of Utopian True believers,see Eric Hoffer's book on the subject.
The big picture is that there is a worldwide conflict,in words and deads,between the True Believers of Religion,and the Secular,Big City dwellers,with the religious and secular moderates stuck between. This may very well be the "Real"underbelly of what is destabilizing America,which appears to be a political,social debate It would like to call it Renaissance/Reformation 2,with this huge exception. During RR1,we had as a side product of the Conflict,one of the great outpouring of the ARTS in history. Alas,RR2 is producing one of the greatest generations of public idiocy on record.
the policy was adopted by Israel for it’s supporters, Rex.
Israel did not acquire the material for the nukes on their own and the origin of the material wouldn’t be questioned as long as its existence wasn’t acknowledged.
Fuster,it's garbage,your explanation doesn't give it any credibility. In other words,the policy is vestigal. We know the origin,France. Therfore,it's past time to dump it.
and no moral basis for anyone else to support Israel over its enemies.
The policy of ambiguity is also a big pain in the ass for Israeli supporters. It's time to get past that BS.
Maybe we should put up a “JRub monitor” – though I’d like to see it broken down into number of words as well as posts. With a little more effort, you could sort out it according to topic areas or key words.
Key Words:
Israel Good most important ally very important friend
Bush Good
Iraq War-worth it,surge,we won
Iran Bomb bomb
Obama Bad
Against Obama Good
Liberals Bad
Conservatives Good
Neo-Cons Best
The day is only HALF over,and here is the score at CONTENTIONS'
Total Posts 21/13 by JRUB,and still not a single new thought/concept.
I'm probably the only one here that finds this fascinating,but her pay plan might be the key to her productivity.
But we were apparently afraid that millions of Jews would suddenly descend upon the US and change our way of life.
So we preferred that they be slaughtered? Rather than inconvenience us? What are you saying?
Be that as it may, any surrender agreement would not have mentioned the extermination camps.
It would have mentioned whatever we wanted it to mention. The German General Staff was ready to dump Hitler in 1943 according to Speer,as long as the Germans had been able to retain control of their country/protection against the Russians,they would have made the deal.
Hitler,and all his SS pals would have been thrown under the Bus.Millions of Jews could have been saved,
GJ/and the country was unanimously for the unconditional surrender of its enemies
Not a good policy for those Jews in Concentration Camps.
CONTENTIONS COUNT OF THE DAY/So Far:
15 Posts/11 by JRUB(same opinions on the same topics as yesterday,last Friday,last Thursday----)
TG for Saturdays
CK/Not to damn him with faint praise, but why do you put BHO on the list? He seems to be odd man out for his lack of fierce commitment to any particular utopianism.
I put him on there because of his beliefs that have no basis in fact,mainly about War and our Economy.
Here's an example on the Economy:
"The fact remains, however, that the kleptocratic rulers in the US, EU, and other debt-burdened countries know exactly what they are doing: to let the recession drag on, to take advantage of the crushing recession in order to extract “enough” concessions from the working people until welfare states are dismantled and labor costs in the more developed capitalist countries are made competitive with those of the less-developed countries. This explains why despite new signs of further global economic contraction, the reigning governments in these countries (whether they are nominally headed by Socialist, Social-Democratic, Labor, Democratic, Conservative or other parties) are maintaining their coordinated abstention from expansive or stimulating fiscal policies while continuing their brutal spending cuts on health, education, wages, pensions, and the like.
This is not to say that these governments do not want to have economic growth or job-creation—they do—but that they want them on their own (Neoliberal) terms, that is, through Neoliberal policies that would create jobs that would pay wages on a par with those of workers in less-developed countries. In other words, they prefer the kind of lopsided economic growth whose fruits would be reaped mostly by the wealthy—the so-called trickle-down or supply-side economic growth. As writer/reporter Patrick O’Connor points out, “In the US, Europe and other advanced capitalist economies, the aim is permanently reducing the living standards of working people."
http://www.counterpunch.org/zadeh08302010.html
For those of you who are not true believers,here's some excellent analysis on our fiscal health;our economic woes being at the core of a lot of systemic irrationalism around the world.
In order to fix our economic system,we have to make a decision,this is a decision no one in the world political /economic system wants to make:
(1)We make a LONG TERM COMMITTMENT to restore the economy by buttressing the currency with assets in order to restore stability. Like all long term investments,this choice will have some very unpleasant intended/unintended consequences,with the upside being a very robust economy.
(2)We make a SHORT TERM COMMITTMENT by keeping our current system while eliminating the "Debt OverHang/Trillions in Debt Forgiveness". This would free up Trillions in short term borrowing/spending,but we eventually would end up where we are today,having chosen #2,see #1
And the settlers are THE problem
No,they are A problem,they are a microcasm of the irrational forces that believe what they believe is Truth/Fact without evidence. The Islamists,Ayn Rand,Jennifer Rubin,Sarah Palin,BHO,W43,NPOD are all in this camp of Utopian True believers,see Eric Hoffer's book on the subject.
The big picture is that there is a worldwide conflict,in words and deads,between the True Believers of Religion,and the Secular,Big City dwellers,with the religious and secular moderates stuck between. This may very well be the "Real"underbelly of what is destabilizing America,which appears to be a political,social debate It would like to call it Renaissance/Reformation 2,with this huge exception. During RR1,we had as a side product of the Conflict,one of the great outpouring of the ARTS in history. Alas,RR2 is producing one of the greatest generations of public idiocy on record.